Existence of God according to Science

I recently made this Existence of God Presentation according to scientific arguments. It is mainly an array of my own thoughts and research on the matter in the past two years. I hope that agnostics and the religious alike may benefit from it and give me their thoughts.

Here is a general outline of the contents:

Existence of God
– Kalam Cosmological Argument

Truth of Islam
Scientific Arguments from Qur’an and Nature
– Big Bang
– Formation of Stars and Planets
– Expansion of the Universe
– Abiogenesis
– Human Embryology
– Stages of Nafs; Freud; Evolutionary Neuroanatomy
– Genetic Engineering
– Social Media and Modern Communications Systems
– Plant Reproduction
– Extra-Terrestrial Life; Drake’s Equation

Numerical Miracles of Qur’an
– Water-Land Ratio
– Word Repetitions; Human Chromosome Number

Experiencing God
– Quantum Physics
– True Dreams of Scientists
– August Kekulé and Otto Leowi
– Near-Death Experiences
– Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin on God
– Pascal’s Wager
– Prayer as an Experiment

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13 thoughts on “Existence of God according to Science

  1. Farhan says:

    salaamz,

    IMO, Reason-based Arguments for the existence of God are bound to fail. The main reason is because they can only go so far as to provide an anomaly or question. At their essence, they will not convince a person to change his assumptions about the nature of reality. Any unanswered question you provide will be retorted with “Science just has not gotten there yet, but it will and that will do away with your God even more”. In this era of scientific understanding, they can leverage Aristotle’s rationalism to understand (almost) all phenomena in a God-free way — and it’ll make complete sense. So if we’re relying on natural phenomena in a rational way, then we’re bound to fail. Just three examples:

    A) The Kalam Cosmological argument — that doesn’t prove that the Abrahamic God is the first Cause. It just proves that time has a beginning, fullstop. Scientists independently acknowledge that.
    B) With arguments that rely on chance, appealing to chance is not an argument. If you rolled a dice 100 times and each time it came up as 6, you might be astounded by the pattern, but statistically it has no greater chance of coming in that pattern than in another seemingly random pattern. So, if someone asks “Yes, but why that unique pattern?”, they can retort “Why not?” and both questions are on statistically equal footing.
    C) Pascal’s Wager (Imam ‘Ali’s Wager) is a useful tool, but it doesn’t really prove anything, just tells you why its most prudent to submit. Its a bet, does not provide conviction.

    You didn’t do this, but I see it done a lot: Appealing to scientists and philosophers as if they have a unique insight that the common person does not have. If they start from the belief that there is no God, then ANYTHING they see will be interpreted through that lens. And if they don’t understand it, like I said earlier, they’ll say its a natural phenomena that we just have yet to understand.

    These arguments try to appeal to them within their already-set assumptions, which is why they’re bound to fail. You have to break their assumptions, first and foremost.

    The only ones I agree with are the experiential “proofs”. The secularists can interpret that away too, but its utterly personal to the individual and ultimately outside of the observable domain.

    I might have already sent this to you, I’ve listened to it a bazillion times: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9T7fu7df2M

    • Very true about all three assertions.

      A.) Kalam Argument proves that the universe had a First Cause. There is no evidence for that First Cause being God though. It could be a Multiverse (M-Theory). But I’d just like to believe it’s God.

      B.) Sure but…the word ‘day’ is repeated 365 times in the Qur’an and the word ‘month’ 12 times? What kind of man has the patience to keep up with how many times he’s writing a specific word to insert a pattern in his book which he has been writing over a period of 23 years? Ever heard of a human author who has done that? Me neither.

      C.) True, Imam ‘Ali (and Ghazali’s) Wager is useful but doesn’t prove anything. But it’s the same for the raging global warming debate in America between scientists and Republicans. Even if global warming doesn’t exist, then doing something about it will only lead to a few years of economic downturn. Not doing anything about it will lead to nothing. If it does exist, then doing something about it rectifies the problem and not doing something about it means a horrible future for our future generations on Earth.

      I also think that the only substantive ‘proof’ of God is experiencing Him for yourself, which is why I mentioned Kekule and Leowi. However you could just denounce that as neurotransmission occurring naturally in the brain or saying it’s a psychic process of thoughts coming from the unconscious. True, but it’s not every day that randomly thinking about things you saw during the day in your sleep lead to revolutionary scientific breakthroughs.

      So in conclusion, even though I don’t really have any concrete evidence for an existence of a God, I think it’s safer to say He exists and to follow Islam due to personal experience and Pascal’s Wager.

      • as-Salamu ‘alaykum wa Rahmatu ‘llah wa Barakatuh,

        Baraka ‘llahu fika for this effort. Keep it up!

        Only for educational purposes:
        The ‘ism yawm or its plural ayyam occur 405 times in the Holy Qur’an and not 365 times. Here the word yawma-idhin is not counted in.
        And the ‘ism nahar, which also means day, occurs 57 times in the Holy Qur’an.
        And the word shahr or its plural ashhur occur 21 times in the Holy Qur’an, not 12 times.

        Wassalam
        Iftekhar

      • Wa ‘Alaykum as-Salam,

        Can you provide me a source of where you got that from? Is there any computer technology to check how many times certain words appear in the Qur’an?

  2. السلام عليكم و رحمة الله و بركاته
    Farhan, I respectfully disagree with some of the things you have said.

    You said “The main reason is because they can only go so far as to provide an anomaly or question. At their essence, they will not convince a person to change his assumptions about the nature of reality. Any unanswered question you provide will be retorted with “Science just has not gotten there yet, but it will and that will do away with your God even more”. In this era of scientific understanding, they can leverage Aristotle’s rationalism to understand (almost) all phenomena in a God-free way — and it’ll make complete sense. So if we’re relying on natural phenomena in a rational way, then we’re bound to fail.”
    Anthony Flew was basically the Richard Dawkins of the 20th century and he had become a theist after analyzing evidence for the existence of God that came from various disciplines of science from being a staunch atheist. Additionally, things like first causes and ultimate origins are in the pen of metaphysics where philosophers mostly play with scientists periodically giving them new toys. I would also like to say that there are several different arguments for God based on the existence of rationality, and how materialism leads to absurd implications in the realm of epistemology.

    Tayyab you said “Kalam Argument proves that the universe had a First Cause. There is no evidence for that First Cause being God though. It could be a Multiverse (M-Theory). But
    I’d just like to believe it’s God.”

    I think I would disagree with there being no evidence that the First cause is God, it certainly doesn’t give all the attributes of God, but argues for an transcendent Agent that may have other traits as far as the arguments takes us. Secondly, when one speaks of the multiverse we get into the realm of metaphysics, and there are several different versions of the multiverse. Some philosophers even try to say that the multiverse can be put into the place of God. However, the BVG theorem dictates that multiverse model of the universe require of a cause and so we are back to our original question albeit in a slightly different form “what cause the multiverse?”. Now the philosophers who have argued for the multiverse often argue for it being an metaphysical infinite eternal realm of possibilities which also is outside any sort of experimental study, which if one prods the philosophical implications of, one finds incredibly ridicules results. These philosophers have now found themselves in a unique problem since the “multiverse” would have to have a beginning, and the “multiverse generator” would have to be tuned in a way so universes don’t constantly destroy one another as well as several other things which exceed the fine tuning of our own universe. Since they had adopted such an contradictory and extravagant explanation for our universe, in place of God, they now must be consistent and accept a much simpler transcendent first cause of the Multiverse.

    It is odd to me that many of these scientists and philosophers who are materialists, that only believe are consciousness, rationality and morality are merely atomic motions arbitrarily dictated by the physical forces around it, then see it Fit to believe in something as insane as an infinite multiverse.

    I think the pursuit of truth and intellectual honesty and moral values that are integral of intellectual discourse, and are not merely a byproduct of social conditioning, atoms bumping around aimlessly, and neurons looking to survive. Scientists find mathematical hints through careful observation that allow them to find a realm of quantum physics that is beyond our senses, for me, the Quran offers scriptural hints for the spiritual realm that is also beyond our senses.

    • I agree with everything you have said. Could you kindly provide some of those scriptural hints to another realm?

    • Farhan says:

      و عليكم السلام و رحمة الله و بركاته

      First off so things are clear, I believe in God, just looking at this from different perspectives.

      You said: “Anthony Flew was basically the Richard Dawkins of the 20th century and he had become a theist after analyzing evidence for the existence of God that came from various disciplines of science from being a staunch atheist.”

      What evidence? And so what if Anthony Flew did? His conversion doesn’t make it true or false. Science deals in the realm of the physical, and there can *never* be physical evidence of God because God is not a physical being. You cannot study God in a lab — and to be honest, you can’t even really philosophize him.

      That “Multiverse must have a cause” doesn’t answer any questions, all you’re saying is “God is the cause of what we don’t understand”. 1000 years ago people did not understand what gravity was. They might have said “God is causing things to fall”. Now we [think] we understand gravity. Is God no longer making things fall, but now the Law of Gravity (hukm ‘aadi). You’re doing exactly the same thing. We don’t yet understand what causes the Multiverse (if it indeed exists), so you’re saying “God is causing it”. But in 50 years if we understand the cause of the multiverse will God no longer be the cause of the multiverse? It’ll then be the physical law?

      I’m sorry, I don’t find these arguments convincing. I don’t have a problem with this, but there is no physical evidence for the existence of God and personally I put little to no stock in syllogisms for the existence of God either.

  3. Tauseef Khan says:

    Good presentation Tayyib. However, you have not tackled evolution in your presentation. That is where most attacks from atheist come.

    • JazakAllahu khayr al-jazaa’ Tauseef.

      I think I did to an extent with the Darwin quotation in which he said that the theory of evolution is compatible with the belief in God, however I will insha’Allah make a new presentation in the future regarding evolution as per the principles of guided evolution.

    • Farhan says:

      That might be the popular front, but that’s rarely why people become atheists.

  4. Omer says:

    Salam all,

    I am not of the Ahmadi but please see below…

    (I forgot the name of the Muslim scholar who found this information on the days)

    The 12 list for months, and for the other forms of days for the 30 days of the month is listed below.

    One can verify by going to http://corpus.quran.com/

    Below is the complete list of the frequency of the singular word “DAY” (YaWM) in the Quran:
    No —–> Sura:Verse
    1 ——> 1 :4
    2 ——> 2:8
    3 ——> 2:48
    4 ——> 2:62
    5 ——> 2:85
    6 ——> 2:113
    7 ——> 2:123
    8 ——> 2:126
    9 ——> 2:174
    10 ——> 2:177
    11 ——> 2:212
    12 ——> 2:228
    13 ——> 2:232
    14 ——> 2:249
    15 ——> 2:254
    16 ——> 2:259
    17 ——> 2:259
    18 ——> 2:264
    19 ——> 2:281
    20 ——> 3:9
    21 ——> 3:25
    22 ——> 3:30
    23 ——> 3:55
    24 ——> 3:77
    25 ——> 3:106
    26 ——> 3:114
    27 ——> 3:155
    28 ——> 3:161
    29 ——> 3:166
    30 ——> 3:180
    31 ——> 3:185
    32 ——> 3:194
    33 ——> 4:38
    34 ——> 4:39
    35 ——> 4:59
    36 ——> 4:87
    37 ——> 4:109
    38 ——> 4:136
    39 ——> 4:141
    40 ——> 4:159
    41 ——> 4:162
    42 ——> 5:3
    43 ——> 5:3
    44 ——> 5:5
    45 ——> 5:14
    46 ——> 5:36
    47 ——> 5:64
    48 ——> 5:69
    49 ——> 5:109
    50 ——> 5:119
    51 ——> 6:12
    52 ——> 6:15
    53 ——> 6:22
    54 ——> 6:73
    55 ——> 6:73
    56 ——> 6:93
    57 ——> 6:128
    58 ——> 6:141
    59 ——> 6:158
    60 ——> 7:14
    61 ——> 7:32
    62 ——> 7:51
    63 ——> 7:53
    64 ——> 7:59
    65 ——> 7:163
    66 ——> 7:163
    67 ——> 7:167
    68 ——> 7:172
    69 ——> 8:41
    70 ——> 8:41
    71 ——> 8:48
    72 ——> 9:3
    73 ——> 9:18
    74 ——> 9:19
    75 ——> 9:25
    76 ——> 9:29
    77 ——> 9:35
    78 ——> 9:36
    79 ——> 9:44
    80 ——> 9:45
    81 ——> 9:77
    82 ——> 9:99
    83 ——> 9:108
    84 ——> 10:15
    85 ——> 10:28
    86 ——> 10:45
    87 ——> 10:60
    88 ——> 10:92
    89 ——> 10:93
    90 ——> 11:3
    91 ——> 11:8
    92 ——> 11:26
    93 ——> 11:43
    94 ——> 11:60
    95 ——> 11:77
    96 ——> 11:84
    97 ——> 11:98
    98 ——> 11:99
    99 ——> 11:103
    100 ——> 11:103
    101 ——> 11:105
    102 ——> 12:54
    103 ——> 12:92
    104 ——> 14:18
    105 ——> 14:31
    106 ——> 14:41
    107 ——> 14:42
    108 ——> 14:44
    109 ——> 14:48
    110 ——> 15:35
    111 ——> 15:36
    112 ——> 15:38
    113 ——> 16:25
    114 ——> 16:27
    115 ——> 16:27
    116 ——> 16:63
    117 ——> 16:80
    118 ——> 16:80
    119 ——> 16:84
    120 ——> 16:89
    121 ——> 16:92
    122 ——> 16:111
    123 ——> 16:124
    124 ——> 17:13
    125 ——> 17:14
    126 ——> 17:52
    127 ——> 17:58
    128 ——> 17:62
    129 ——> 17:71
    130 ——> 17:97
    131 ——> 18:19
    132 ——> 18:19
    133 ——> 18:47
    134 ——> 18:52
    135 ——> 18:105
    136 ——> 19:15
    137 ——> 19:15
    138 ——> 19:15
    139 ——> 19:26
    140 ——> 19:33
    141 ——> 19:33
    142 ——> 19:33
    143 ——> 19:37
    144 ——> 19:38
    145 ——> 19:38
    146 ——> 19:39
    147 ——> 19:85
    148 ——> 19:95
    149 ——> 20:59
    150 ——> 20:64
    151 ——> 20:100
    152 ——> 20:101
    153 ——> 20:102
    154 ——> 20:104
    155 ——> 20:124
    156 ——> 20:126
    157 ——> 21:47
    158 ——> 21:104
    159 ——> 22:2
    160 ——> 22:9
    161 ——> 22:17
    162 ——> 22:47
    163 ——> 22:55
    164 ——> 22:69
    165 ——> 23:16
    166 ——> 23:65
    167 ——> 23:100
    168 ——> 23:111
    169 ——> 23:113
    170 ——> 23:113
    171 ——> 24:2
    172 ——> 24:24
    173 ——> 24:37
    174 ——> 24:64
    175 ——> 25:14
    176 ——> 25:17
    177 ——> 25:22
    178 ——> 25:25
    179 ——> 25:26
    180 ——> 25:27
    181 ——> 25:69
    182 ——> 26:38
    183 ——> 26:82
    184 ——> 26:87
    185 ——> 26:88
    186 ——> 26:135
    187 ——> 26:155
    188 ——> 26:156
    189 ——> 26:189
    190 ——> 26:189
    191 ——> 27:83
    192 ——> 27:87
    193 ——> 28:41
    194 ——> 28:42
    195 ——> 28:61
    196 ——> 28:62
    197 ——> 28:65
    198 ——> 28:71
    199 ——> 28:72
    200 ——> 28:74
    201 ——> 29:13
    202 ——> 29:25
    203 ——> 29:36
    204 ——> 29:55
    205 ——> 30:12
    206 ——> 30:14
    207 ——> 30:43
    208 ——> 30:55
    209 ——> 30:56
    210 ——> 30:56
    211 ——> 31:33
    212 ——> 32:5
    213 ——> 32:25
    214 ——> 32:29
    215 ——> 33:21
    216 ——> 33:44
    217 ——> 33:66
    218 ——> 34:30
    219 ——> 34:40
    220 ——> 34:42
    221 ——> 35:14
    222 ——> 36:54
    223 ——> 36:55
    224 ——> 36:59
    225 ——> 36:64
    226 ——> 36:65
    227 ——> 37:20
    228 ——> 37:21
    229 ——> 37:26
    230 ——> 37:144
    231 ——> 38:16
    232 ——> 38:26
    233 ——> 38:53
    234 ——> 38:78
    235 ——> 38:79
    236 ——> 38:81
    237 ——> 39:13
    238 ——> 39:15
    239 ——> 39:24
    240 ——> 39:31
    241 ——> 39:47
    242 ——> 39:60
    243 ——> 39:67
    244 ——> 40:15
    245 ——> 40:16
    246 ——> 40:16
    247 ——> 40:17
    248 ——> 40:17
    249 ——> 40:18
    250 ——> 40:27
    251 ——> 40:29
    252 ——> 40:30
    253 ——> 40:32
    254 ——> 40:33
    255 ——> 40:46
    256 ——> 40:49
    257 ——> 40:51
    258 ——> 40:52
    259 ——> 41:19
    260 ——> 41:40
    261 ——> 41:47
    262 ——> 42:7
    263 ——> 42:45
    264 ——> 42:47
    265 ——> 43:39
    266 ——> 43:65
    267 ——> 43:68
    268 ——> 44:10
    269 ——> 44:16
    270 ——> 44:40
    271 ——> 44:41
    272 ——> 45:17
    273 ——> 45:26
    274 ——> 45:27
    275 ——> 45:28
    276 ——> 45:34
    277 ——> 45:35
    278 ——> 46:5
    279 ——> 46:20
    280 ——> 46:20
    281 ——> 46:21
    282 ——> 46:34
    283 ——> 46:35
    284 ——> 50:20
    285 ——> 50:22
    286 ——> 50:30
    287 ——> 50:34
    288 ——> 50:41
    289 ——> 50:42
    290 ——> 50:42
    291 ——> 50:44
    292 ——> 51:12
    293 ——> 51:13
    294 ——> 52:9
    295 ——> 52:13
    296 ——> 52:46
    297 ——> 54:6
    298 ——> 54:8
    299 ——> 54:19
    300 ——> 54:48
    301 ——> 55:29
    302 ——> 56:50
    303 ——> 56:56
    304 ——> 57:12
    305 ——> 57:12
    306 ——> 57:13
    307 ——> 57:15
    308 ——> 58:6
    309 ——> 58:7
    310 ——> 58:18
    311 ——> 58:22
    312 ——> 60:3
    313 ——> 60:6
    314 ——> 62:9
    315 ——> 64:9
    316 ——> 64:9
    317 ——> 64:9
    318 ——> 65:2
    319 ——> 66:7
    320 ——> 66:8
    321 ——> 68:24
    322 ——> 68:39
    323 ——> 68:42
    324 ——> 69:35
    325 ——> 70:4
    326 ——> 70:8
    327 ——> 70:26
    328 ——> 70:43
    329 ——> 70:44
    330 ——> 73:14
    331 ——> 73:17
    332 ——> 74:9
    333 ——> 74:46
    334 ——> 75:1
    335 ——> 75:6
    336 ——> 76:7
    337 ——> 76:10
    338 ——> 76:11
    339 ——> 76:27
    340 ——> 77:12
    341 ——> 77:13
    342 ——> 77:14
    343 ——> 77:35
    344 ——> 77:38
    345 ——> 78:17
    346 ——> 78:18
    347 ——> 78:38
    348 ——> 78:39
    349 ——> 78:40
    350 ——> 79:6
    351 ——> 79:35
    352 ——> 79:46
    353 ——> 80:34
    354 ——> 82:15
    355 ——> 82:17
    356 ——> 82:18
    357 ——> 82:19
    358 ——> 83:5
    359 ——> 83:6
    360 ——> 83:11
    361 ——> 83:34
    362 ——> 85:2
    363 ——> 86:9
    364 ——> 90:14
    365 ——> 101:4

    Below is the complete list of the frequency of the plural forms of the word “DAY” (AYyAM, YaWMaYN):
    [There are 30 average number of “days” in a month]
    No —–> Sura:Verse
    1 ——> 2:80
    2 ——> 2:184
    3 ——> 2:184
    4 ——> 2:185
    5 ——> 2:196
    6 ——> 2:203
    7 ——> 2:203
    8 ——> 3:24
    9 ——> 3:41
    10 ——> 3:140
    11 ——> 5:89
    12 ——> 7:54
    13 ——> 10:3
    14 ——> 10:102
    15 ——> 11:7
    16 ——> 11:65
    17 ——> 14:5
    18 ——> 22:28
    19 ——> 25:59
    20 ——> 32:4
    21 ——> 34:18
    22 ——> 41:9
    23 ——> 41:10
    24 ——> 41:12
    25 ——> 41:16
    26 ——> 45:14
    27 ——> 50:38
    28 ——> 57:4
    29 ——> 69:7
    30 ——> 69:24

    Below is the complete list of the frequency of the word “SHaHR” (Month):

    No —–> Sura:Verse
    1 ——> 2:185
    2 ——> 2:185
    3 ——> 2:194
    4 ——> 2:194
    5 ——> 2:217
    6 ——> 5:2
    7 ——> 5:97
    8 ——> 9:36
    9 ——> 34:12
    10 ——> 34:12
    11 ——> 46:15
    12 ——> 97:3

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